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October 11, 2017 at 1:16 pm #3229
Brandon Cohen DC, CSCSParticipant60 old female
with right shoulder pain after falling onto a child’s bicycle onto that shoulder.
Palliative: direct pressure (hmm…that’s weird)
Provocative: movement/loading in front or above 90 degrees abduction.
Intensity: 2/10, 8/10
Quality: sharp and dull
Just finished cancer treatment for breast cancer (Thank you ID for that
diagnosis), and has been declared cancer free. PET scan is scheduled
for later this month. Primary ordered plain film which were unremarkable.
SA: 80 degrees on the right with pain in the lateral arm and shoulder.
Pushup test: “Good luck with that.”
Dx: Rotator cuff/labral tear, cancer, weakness, adhesion
I ordered MRA, and in the meantime we did 2 treatments with the same
response. Improved ROM to 100 degrees, but back to 80 degrees for
follow
up visits. Biggest issue is that she cannot tolerate ranges of motion
required for movement. She can’t get to 90 degrees without pain which
makes infra and teres minimally effective. She can’t get past 90 degrees
on subscap either. Inferior capsule has a lot of protective tension
anywhere
past 90 degrees. She has adhesion in the deltoid where she fell, and
we’ve
made some change to that.
MRA came back without a lot of degeneration, but no full thickness
tears.
1. Supraspinatus and infraspinatus tendinosis with superimposed low-
grade partial-thickness Bursal sided tears; no focal full thickness defect or
tendon retraction.
2. Moderate acromioclavicular osteoarthrosis.
3. Mild subacromial-subdeltoid bursitis.
With the imaging, I was hopeful to have more answers, but now I have
more questions than before. What could be limiting her range of motion so
severely? Could the tendinosis be so severe that it creates all the
protective tension? I have not seen such
intense pain and limited function without a big pathology.
October 12, 2017 at 8:29 am #3231
William Brady, DCParticipantTwo big thoughts: 1. The shoulder could be very inflamed from the fall. 2. Stress is pro inflammatory and the opposite of a healing environment. Put these two together and she doesn’t need much pathology to have a high pain level and limited function.
The symptom location strongly suggests symptoms are from glenohumeral inflammation or damage. MRI shows mild/moderate damage, the fall triggers inflammation and the stress (having cancer and cancer treatment will are not joyous occasions) perpetuates the inflammation.
Has she tried ice? In a case like this it would be good to know if it’s palliative and may even be therapeutic.
One last thought, you are the provider that diagnosed the cancer. Emotionally that might makes thing complicated. Keep this part in your back pocket for now.
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